ANCC meeting nr 20

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SN/1167. 19th June, 1943.
TO: AD/E. FROM: SN
Minutes of the 19th Meeting of the A.N.C.C.
Items 3 (a) and 3(b) Arrangements are being made Captain Halle and A/L to meet and go into the question of Norwegian Pilots and Navigators.
Commander Storheil, D.S.C. has, however, left for the Mediterranean for a few weeks, and his meeting with AD/N will have to be postponed until his return.
19 JUN Entd. JSW

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AGENDA
for the Twentieth Meeting of the Anglo-Norwegian Collaboration Committee to be held on:
Thursday, 15th of July, 1943, at 3 p.m. at 88, Chiltern court.

1. Points arising out of Minutes of the Nineteenth Meeting:
(a) H.M.King Haakon VII»s Visit to S.T.S.26.
(b) Attachment of Norwegian pilots to 138 Squadron.
(c) Transport craft for next operational season.
(d) Propaganda.
2. N.I.C.(1).
3. N.N.I.U.
4. Any other business.

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SN/1279. 14th July, 1943.
TO: AD/E. (Copy to AD/S and SN/I) FROM: SN.

TWENTIETH MEETING OP A.N.C.C. on Thursday, 15th July, 1943.
Reference Agenda.
1. Points arising out of Minutes of 19th Meeting;..
(a) SN (and SU ?) will report on H.M's visit.
(b) Captain Halle has been in consultation with A/L and his staff in regard to pin-points etc. Arrangements have also been made for Captain Halle to do a course at S.T.S.51.
(c) Report of possibility of fast craft being obtained from U.S.A. Situation in regard to use of M.F.Vs and M.T.B.'s remains the same.
(d) SN/I and SB. Small amount of anti-Nazi propaganda has been passed into Norway from Stockholm.
2 N.I.C.1.
(a) Captain Kvinge has offered his resignation to SU, who has accepted it. His relief will have to be appointed from outside the Company.
(b) There has been separation between Norwegian and British officers and the latter have been taken to task by SN on this account.
(c) The possibility of reducing the present numbers
in the Company should be considered by both sides, taking the primary purposes of the Company as the provision of personnel for pre-Allied landing operations in Norway.
(d) ST may have a lot to say. He should be led to realise that N.I.C.1 is not really much concerned with actual overt military duties. SU is sounder on this point.
3. N.N.I.U.
The present position in regard to the men is that the older hands, collectively, have said that they will not remain as "volunteers" unless fast craft are provided. There may be individual withdrawals from this position. The newer hands would probably be ready to "volunteer" if given a lead by one or two of the older hands. The base staff are pleased to remain on to maintain the M.F.Vs. Even if operational trips are not sailed, the M.F.Vs should be retained and can be utilised for exercises and practice connected with Kayaks, Welmans, etc.
4. Any other business.
Nothing specific, but various points may emerge from above.

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MINUTES OF THE TWENTIETH MEETING OF THE ANGLO-NORWEGIAN COLLABORATION MEETING HELD ON THURSDAY, 15th July. 1943

1. Points of arising out of the minutes of the Nineteenth Meeting:
(a) H.M.King Haakon VII' Visit to S.T.S.26. S.U. reported on this, and conveyed to the' Meeting.H.M.'s appreciation.
(b) Attachment of Norwegian pilots to 138 Squadron.
SN explained the present posititon, and stated that Capt.Halle had been in touch with AL ond AL/B on the subject of pin-point dropping. He further stated that Capt.Halle was due to go to S.T.S.51. AD/E suggested that it would be desirable if Capt.Halle could go to S.T.S.61 be well, or the purpose of interesting the Squadron at first hand in the attachment to it of Norwegian pilots. SN was, asked to take action on this. S.U. stated that Capt.Halle had almost finished his documantary work on the subject of pin-point dropping., which on completion would be forwarded to the Air Ministry. AD/E suggested that at a later date the Air Ministry should be approached on the original subject through K/AIR.P.
c) Transport Craft for next Operational Season. SN reported the possibility of two fast craft being available from U.S.A. A telegram requesting further information has been dispatched. SN explained the situation as regards the Shetland crews and their meetings in London with Lt.Hauge and SN/O.1. It was afreed to leave the matter pending for ht time being until more definite information was available in regards to the fast craft. It was unanimously agreed that itt was necessary to retain the M.F.V', in good condition as well as to keep shore crews as far as possible. S.U. mentioned the possibility of emloying pilots for M.T.B's attached to No 30 Flotilla. These could be lent to the British flotilla if need be.
SN raised the question of retaining Burgh Head base, and asked S.U. to nominate a Norwegian officer to be available to SN/S committee which was to deal with this question. Lt. Hauge was proposed. S.T. suggeste keeping Burg Head as a training and transit camp, since there were always occasions when separate accommodaition was required for separate operational parties. S.T. enquired about the possibility of obtaining aircraft.
AD/S stated, and AD/E agreed, that althrough there were hopes of getting more aircraft from the Amerikans, the question of training pilots in this conncection would require organizing. It was hoped, however, to secure an increase in the strength of 138 Squadron.
(d) Propaganda.
SN mentioned a recent successful propaganda operation in Norway againts German Troops, i.z. the Von Falkenhorst hoax. AD/S stated that the Sweden had built a large camp for German deserters., AD/E requested more information regarding this, which was promised by AD/S,
S.B. asked what had been done with regard to the proposed training of instructors in propaganda for S.T.S.26. SN explained the program being made. AD/S suggest that an official trained in black propaganda should be attached to Mr. Schive's staff at the Norwegian Press Office in Stockholm. It was suggest that either someone already on Stockholm should be brought to the country for indoctrination in black propaganda at P.W.E. or if anyone suitable could be found here he should be dispatched to Stockholm. In either case it was agreed to approach Press Attache Schive on the subject. SU stated that in his report to the Norwegian Government on his visit to Sweden he had emphasised the importance of Allied propaganda in Norway. Both the Norwegian Prime Minister and the Foreign Minister show sympathy with this, but stated that this subject came under their jurisdiction and was not a military matter.
AD/S mentioning his visit with SN to Minister Lie, stated that the Norwegian Foreign Minister had promised again to approach the Home Front the subject of propaganda. As no news had been received from Minister Lie, AD/S suggested he would write on behalf of P.W.E. and remind the Minister of this promise. ST suggest that food sent to Norway could constitute the most desirable kind of propaganda for that country, to which AD/S replied that this was absolutely out of question.
2. N.I.C.(1)
SN explained the present situation within N.I.C.(1). and mentioned that Capt Kvinge's resignation had been accepted by S.U. He asked for a tribute to be paid to Capt Kvinge's valuable work in the past. He further stated that changes might have to be made in the British staff at S.T.S.26.. AD/E stated that this would be considered, SU says that Capt Kvinge's successor had not been nominated, but mentioned Capt. Aas as a possibility. SN explained that S.T.S.26 would shortly come under the SN Section directly, in which case the question of security with special reference to censorship would receive renewed consideration.
It was agree that the Commando-trained me required by A.C.O.S for a service with 30th.. Flotilla should b found from N.I.C.(1).
3. N.N.I.U.(1). Refer to 1(c).
4. Any other business.
ST asked what the possibility were of obtaining German weapons from the campaign in North Africa. AD/E replied that the position at present was extremely disappointing. AD/E suggested the use of 7.92 Bren guns, which he explained would take German ammunition. ST stated that a .38 calibre Tommy gun capable of taking Schmeisser automatic ammunition was being manufactured. He also mentioned Sniper's rifle caliber 22, which he consider to be suitable in view of the lighter weight of ammunition. Action was to be taken to find out all particulars and details regarding the above-mentioned weapons.
Distribution:
C.D (For information) SN
AD/E 3 copies for Mr Boye
D/PLANS File.
AD/S

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